As I'm far from my workshop I was doing some theory research , and found some valuable information in the work of Sergey Deyna and other Russian researchers. I am working on the translation of the most relevant documents to post it on this place. For the moment I'm limited for uploading, as I don't have access to my PC. So y just will try with a smaller size file, ant the text inside the illustrations will remain in Russian for the moment. More will be posted soon. Regards Vidura.
Towards a more complete understanding of EM.
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This document is a continuation of the investigation of the longitudinal magnetic field component.
And here in this work, which I found of special interest, Sergey give an analysis of the principal inconsistencies of textbook physics, and proposes a different model to explain the phenomena of wave propagation and ether environment.
This is a revised translation of the document about Registration of Radiant energy, for easier lecture. I believe that it is related to the effects we are looking for in many of the threads. Pay attention to the sawtooth waveform when the Radiant effect is present, Due to the size of the file it is divided in tree attachments. here the link for the original video from Sergei Deyna:
This is the newest of this serie, the video in Russian and a translated document attached.
Radiant Tesla test by Roman Karnouhov. Pay attention to the SAWTOOTH waveform when the Radiant effect is present !!
Firstly i wanted to remark that this thread is basically indented to share information , with the goal to get a better understanding of physical phenomena's and specially electromagnetic interactions. There is no intention to lead experimenters to any particular method or device. For this are other threads specifically orientated as guidelines.
Find attached a document about Selfinduction and backEMF en context with the ether environment. Chronologically this doc is previous to the one posted in the last post.
As Chris has stated several times : we have to change our way of thinking. We have been told certain "facts" so many times that it becomes difficult to see the things from a different point of view. Might it be that we confuse sometimes what is the cause of a certain phenomenon, and what the effect? Here a paper that explains such a simple device as a capacitor in a different manner.
Here a new released work from Sergei Deyna, a addition to the capacitor topic. I wanted to say that i found this investigations of Sergey by coincidence(?), as he dont publish in other languish but Russian. And is there where coherent explanations for many fisical phenomenon, which I could not understand before, I found this material worthwhile for reading and sharing. It would be good know some opinion of other readers as well.
I have not pondered too much on the subject of a Capacitor, but I have wondered if the Capacitor Plates are truly of different Charges? I mean we say the Plates are Charged either Positive or Negative. But do different Charges exist and if so, how many different types?
We have some idea from this table that the Electron has a few flavours:
So, if it is Electrons that are the Charge on the Plates, then its Anti particle, that is considered Positive, that is if there are both Positive and Negative Charge distributed across the Plates of the capacitor, which Electrons are considered to be which?
Electron Positron Pairs annihilate according to Science, so is this a possibility?
Chris, agreed, it is consistent that in a world of dualism two polarities of charges exists. Also Floyd Sweet and Don Smith talked about two polarities in there theories, so does Sergei in this papers, assuming a ether environment of dipoles ,which separates and combines again, at a much smaller scale.
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@Vidura, I agree. Isn't it crazy, we can fire particles around several Km's of circular EM Containment apparatus, but we cant explain Current in a Wire, or Charge on Capacitor Plates, at least with sufficient accuracy.
Some debate the legitimacy of Displacement Current, really, all moving Charge has a magnetic Field, so there is evidence to support Displacement Current, but also that does not.
Lets hope the material youre sharing sheds some light on these things.
I will share a experiment that i have performed during the testing of a new PWM signal tool. It is related to the topic of BEMF. It is stated in the textbooks that the BEMF is caused by a collapsing magnetic field, and the energy of this field transformes into a high voltage spike. So I was asking myself what would happen when I use a noninductive coil, is the BEMF present?
The setup is a simple hi side IGBT switch with a floating gate drive, in order to not only cancel the perpendicular "normal" magnetic field , but also the A-vector field(scalar magnetic) field I decided to use a noninductive pancake coil as inductor(Hooper coil).
The first test shows the scope shot of the BEMF with the bifilar coil connected as tesla pancake coil, the channel2 trace shows the driving pulse, channel 1 is 50 V / div :
The next test shows the same setup with same parameters , but the coil in non inductive configuration:
The voltage of the BEMF spike increased from 175V to over 400V and the puls duration decreased from 1us to 200ns !
Then I connected a cylindric bifilar coil with several hundreds of turns of a 0.7mm magnetic wire:
When connected as tesla bifilar coil I did not get a BEMF, due to the hi impedance and dc resistence of the coil, but in noninductive configuration there where still nearly 100V , although the pulse duration not that short as in the previous setup.
If it is not the collapsing magnetic field that causes the BEMF, what is it then?
My answer would be discharge of the dielectric field in an attempt to maintain the magnetic field. In the non inductive configuration the magnetic field is still there but infolded due to geometry and therefore not detectable.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
This is a fantastic Experiment, it is very worth while doing simple yet intriguing experiments like this!
I found some satisfying answers in Radio Electronics theory, in my experiments, in the same area. The Near Field is an intriguing thing to study!
Take special note; of the Interference Patterns in the Near Field.
Around an Antenna, the Near Field has been measured:
Which is almost exactly the same pattern as the Van Allen Belts:
As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul…
― Hermes Trismegistus
When researching this area, we get results like: "Probing near-field thermal radiation", with images like so:
My humble opinion is, all Coils that carry a Current, have an associated Near Field Radiation pattern, it is possible to create conditions where this Pattern can be made to Pump, to create a Forcing Function, where Near Field Radiation is sucked into the Coil in great quantities. This brings us back to Tom Bearden:
Yes, he was right, the great man was right.
So, Once the Field has been created, then Non-Inductive Coils, Inductive Coils, any sort of Coils, must react to the Field when it changes in Time! Its always going to occur! If one Coil has a Voltage, or a Voltage Difference in relation to the other Coil in the Non-Inductive case, then the Fields must Pump! This is the Lorentz Force, and Faraday all at the same time.
Non-Inductive Coils are HIGHLY Inductive at the RIGHT Frequency!
Isn't that ironic . Now WHERE did all that Amplitude come from? Parasitic, I think not! The Kiddies over at TrollHangout.com will argue with what I am saying all day long, till the cows come home! It is right and True! Saludos Chris
Isn't that ironic . Now WHERE did all that Amplitude come from? Parasitic, I think not!
The Kiddies over at TrollHangout.com will argue with what I am saying all day long, till the cows come home! It is right and True!
Correct. There are different ways of explaining this but the result is the same, stimulation and hence increase of the Faraday static field outside the coil to discharge into it That's why Meyl's unification of faraday and maxwell is important. Maxwell only deals with a dynamic field. Unifying with Faraday gives both static and dynamic fields.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
You have an excellent understanding of the subject matter, clearly very advanced in the field!
I guess, some unification could be seen as the full interaction of Opposing Travelling Waves, Standing Waves result, but not a new singular wave, instead we now have four waves, and of course this depends where one observes from.
Each wave is a result of the Equal and Opposite Law.
For each wave in, we have its equal and opposite out, from each side. but in the middle, the waves stand.
At-least, this is my opinion. I believe, if I understand your post correctly, this agrees with your meaning also?
An excellent series of posts, thank you gentlemen!
Yes, resonant wave interactions.
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
Some more info for those interested:
EM waves in vacuum are not force field waves as CEM prescribes; instead, they are oscillations of potentials and potential gradients. Potentials have a bidirectional EM wave-pair structure, where the bidirectional wave pairs are phaselocked in a harmonic series. In each wave pair, photons and antiphotons are continually coupling (into spin-2 gravitons) and decoupling. This is where gravitation and electromagnetics are unified.
Lets ask the question, what is a: "bidirectional EM wave-pair structure"?
A bidirectional EM wave is two waves, one in each direction, one in the Positive Direction, one in the Negative Direction.
We are looking at a Pair of these wave Structures, so we have Four Waves.
So we are right according to Tom Bearden. We have: THE FINAL SECRET OF FREE ENERGY.
Hey Friends, this is becoming very interesting, four waves, or two waves and there reaction or reflection!
I would like to remark this (momentary) conclusion from Sergei's capacitor investigation:
1) reactive voltage is a wave of longitudinal deformation of the ether medium in the form of compression-discharge, which moves outside the conductor, which, by G. Nikolayev, is called a scalar magnetic field.
2) the reactive current is a wave of a transverse deformation of the ether medium, which propagates outside the conductor and propagates perpendicular to the surface, which is called a vector magnetic field by G. V. Nikolaev.
3) voltage is a real analogue of a reactive voltage, that is, a longitudinal wave of deformation in the form of compression-discharge, but in a conducting medium it takes the form of a spatial separation of real charges for their excess and deficiency.
4) the current is a real analogue of the reactive current, that is, a transverse deformation wave in the form of twisting-stretching, but in a conducting medium it takes the form of a spatial twisting - skin effect and movement of real charges in it;
Could it be that the reflected waves, travelling backwards along the waveguide are originated by the reaction of the "real charges" in the conductive material to the original waves? Lenz' law from another point of view?
There is a lot to absorb there!
I agree with Aetherholic, many ways to view the same thing, and end up with the same result. Depending on the interpretation of the above statements, knowing the very movement of Charge constitutes an Electromagnetic Wave, then I also agree with you, there is an element of Duality there, as we have discussed!
Tom Bearden has said about the E. T. Whittaker 1903 and 1904 papers, he has shared this image:
I have attached the document: On A Testable Unification Of Electromagnetics, General Relativity, And Quantum Mechanics.
Interesting material Chris, And as it is remarked on the header of every page, it is not "updated"- falsified still. Anyway I will try to keep the theory as simple as possible, ideally anyone should be able to understand the essential principle. A short while ago I believed that it is the potential that makes current flow, but a simple experiment disproves this: if I can connect a discharged capacitor to a AC source at the moment of zero potential and have maximum current instantly! The cause must be other then electric potential. What is producing the phase shift of current to one side or the other, depending what device is connected to the AC source? Why there is no phase shift when a resistive load is connected? The understanding of this simple interactions will help a lot I think. I will continue looking for simple experiments . Regards Vidura.
A truly fascinating topic, Reactance!
What causes Phase Shift, or perhaps a better question, what causes Phase Shift to reduce to Zero when increasing a Load on a Transformer?
It took me a long time to gain an understanding of Reactance, Impedance and Resistance when dealing with Coils and Capacitors, but when I did, my world opened right up!
I don't want to fill your thread with content that you do not wish to be on here, but if you have any questions, I can try to answer to the best of my ability.
Voltage stays the same, Current stays the same, the properties in Space and Time are what's changed.
Thanks. Chris, For the moment I am trying to reflect and digest the information, in my feeling all points towards the magnetic waves and their timing (magnetic resonance). One more thing I will recall: in one his last papers Sergei Deyna stated the propagation velocities for the electric longitudinal and the magnetic transverse waves are different, and both far from the velocity of C assumed by CEM. I have asked him if this statements have been proven by experiments, and why the difference with the great speed measured in long transmission lines. He answered that the published information have been concluded by experimental results, and that the apparently high propagation velocities are related to torsion fields, that it is actually a signal , information which does not depend on velocity limitations. He told me that he is still investigating this field and will publish it when he got more results.
An interesting experiment Christian, I did never try with the Caduceus coil myself.As it is bifiliar it can be connected in inductive or no inductive configuration, I will search some information about it. It is ok if you post it here in this thread, as it could add new information related to this research, and I appreciate participation of other members. You can also post your own thread(s) for your experiments if you want to do so. Regards Vidura.
Thanks. Chris, For the moment I am trying to reflect and digest the information, in my feeling all points towards the magnetic waves and their timing (magnetic resonance).
No problem, completely understand.
One more thing I will recall: in one his last papers Sergei Deyna stated the propagation velocities for the electric longitudinal and the magnetic transverse waves are different, and both far from the velocity of C assumed by CEM. I have asked him if this statements have been proven by experiments, and why the difference with the great speed measured in long transmission lines. He answered that the published information have been concluded by experimental results, and that the apparently high propagation velocities are related to torsion fields, that it is actually a signal , information which does not depend on velocity limitations. He told me that he is still investigating this field and will publish it when he got more results.
The Speed of Light ( c ), 299,792,458 meters per second, is a Constant, according to Science. The speed of Electromagnetic Waves depend entirely the speed of Light, however the speed changes depending on the Medium Electromagnetic Waves travel in.
λ = V / f
- λ = wavelength, the distance between wave crests (m).
- V = wave velocity, the speed that waves are moving in a direction (m/s).
- f = frequency, the wave crests that go through a point in a certain time (cycles/s or Hz).
V is not always 299,792,458 meters per second, it could be much less for Electromagnetic Waves depending on the medium they travel in.
For example, inside a Coaxial Cable, the speed is around 67% of the speed of light.
I am guessing, if Sergei's experiments have found a discrepancy of this nature, perhaps relooking at the experiment before publishing may be a good idea. Of course I am looking at this with an open mind, but a cautious one also.
I have a friend that has worked with Antenna, an electronics engineer, very knowledgeable guy and he taught me a lot about this stuff.
Yes the speed of light is dependent upon the resonant medium it propagates through. So the speed of light is in fact the speed of wave propagation and is also subject to em retardation, that is, light propagation has a finite distance. This is applicable to transverse em wave propagation. Longitudinal propagation is another story.....
Aetherholic - One truth, One field
De Broglie Waves, a debate scientists still have not agreed upon .
Ref: Shubham Wagh
Did you read that: "Matter waves travel faster than light" - Now Normally, Enter the debate...
Personally, I have an opinion, and debating with others will not change my opinion as I expect you have much the same stand point, likely most of us do. That's why we all get on so well. But others, well, I have seen 12 - 15 years of the same debate on other forums. Round and Round in the same old Circles.
I am sure a few names of members of other forums come to mind right now .
Anyway, I do not wish to fill this thread with senseless chat, so I will leave it at that.
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Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago go by instinct or reason. It has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who drives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians, and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static, our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.
Experiments With Alternate Currents Of High Potential And High Frequency (February 1892).
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