Captainloz's Asymmetrical Re-gauging Experiment

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Captainloz posted this 23 August 2020

Hi Guys,

Sorry I haven't been contributing lately. I think this video is insightful. I'm pretty happy with the way things are progressing. I took Chris's advise and went back to what I was having success with. That was good advise!

I still want to try setting up the L1 coil in series resonance.  Remember series resonance is supposed to give better voltage and parallel resonance gives better current out.  I also need to work on impedance matching.  I love the analogy of impedance matching to a torc converter. I still don't fully understand how to do this yet but that's what I'm currently studying. 

Cheers,

Loz

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Chris posted this 17 November 2020

My Friends,

Itsu's Reply:

Ref: Itsu's Decline

 

I have read between the lines on this one, and I will, at this stage, keep my opinion to myself. Loz has also invited Itsu to join us!

Most would take a little Advice and add a Diode in the right polarity, for the Holly Grail, obviously not all!

Itsu is not aware of Members Here that have succeeded in getting the Same or Similar Results as CaptainLoz! Some Members are very much more than 2x! We have: "The Holly Grail" and have had it for a long time!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Captainloz posted this 18 November 2020

Hi Chris,

I really appreciate you making the offer to Itsu. Thank you for that!

I think it's a shame he doesn't want to take you up on it... I was really hoping Itsu would come join us here. There are no strings here I'm not sure what he means there. Anyway I wish him luck. He had some good insight and questions and I really like that.  I'm sure he would have been a good addition to this forum.

Oh well...

Cheers,

Loz

 

Chris posted this 18 November 2020

Hey Loz,

Re:

There are no strings here I'm not sure what he means there.

 

That means: "cant succeed at any cost! Failure is the ONLY option". That's the way I read it anyway.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Chris posted this 19 November 2020

My Friends,

I was waiting for it:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder

 

I really want to Highlight the sentence: 

Is there an explaination on why in this setup there is so much difference in the shape and form of the current trace from the 0.1 Ohm csr (see screenshot 1) compared to the current probe trace and 1 Ohm voltage trace (see screenshot 2)?

 

At first glance, it appears Itsu is trying to find Fault in our Measurement Protocols. Reading further, he does clearly state that's not the case, and I do appreciate this.

At least Itsu is being honest:

Not that it will explain the COP=2, but it puzzeles me how it is possible.

 

Itsu is looking at "In Circuit Impedance" and the Difference between 1 Ohm and 0.1 Ohm. A Difference of 0.9 Ohm. Now other factors are playing a role here, for example, Wire Wound 1 Ohm Resistors, we all the the problems we have seen with these Wire Wound Resistors. Extra Inductance and Capacitance Factors.

If the Circuit Impedance changes, the Current must also Change, the Voltage Drop must also Change! Its a Cascading issue and definitely something that needs to be taken into account!

We have already warned about this and most here will remember me saying: The 0.1 ohm resistors were very carefully selected for a very good reason.

It is really important to minimise the In Circuit Impedance to get an Accurate Result! Other wise, the Circuit will not perform as it would without the CSR Resistor in the Circuit.

I am very pleased, we here, have been able to teach Itsu something very Important!

Best Wishes

   Chris

 

P.S: I learned these Measurement Protocols from a very good Friend and a HP Engineer that used to Engineer the HP Lab equipment a few decades ago. Our Measurement Protocols are SOUND and among the Best in the World! We truly are Light Years ahead of the Other Forums! You will note, the other forums have never accounted for Non-Linear Load Characteristics! We do and have always! 

P.P.S: See Measurements thread for information on the Video posted in Itsu's Post.

 

Chris posted this 19 November 2020

My Friends,

For your reference: From the Measurement Thread

 

My Friends,

In our quest to bring easy simple measurement to every person with an Oscilloscope, we have had a few issues that have cropped up, simple issues to fix, but issues one needs to be aware of.

 

Best Practice: It is always best practice to use a Current Sensing Resistor ( CSR some use the term CVR Current Viewing Resistor ) that will have the least possible effect on the Circuit! As if the CSR was not in the Circuit! Remember, you always want to take measurement on the Circuit , which means if you change the Circuit by introducing large Impedances, the Circuit is no longer the same! To take accurate Measurements, the Circuit must be minimally affected by introducing your Measurement Equipment! This is important!

 

Recently, Itsu has done a video on 1 Ohm vs a 0.1 Ohm resistor:

 

For sure, the 0.1 Ohm Resistor is Bad!

Ohmite Resistors are commonly Wire Wound, they say that they are not, or say: "Non-Inductive" but beware, they can go bad very easily!

CD_Sharp has seen this issue before and we have resolved this simply by replacing the Resistor.

This is another reason Equipment should always be Calibrated and Checked! We have not yet seen any issues with the Measurement Block I have shared with you all! The Measurement Block should always give you a solid stable Signal! However, it is wise to Test its accuracy on a regular basis!

 

Where:

  • Green Trace = Clamp on Current Probe.
  • Blue Trace = 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor.

 

Current Signals should always be the same! If they are not, as in Itsu's case, above image, there is a Problem!

I have left a Message:

 

Best Wishes

   Chris

 

 

Itsu has a fresh round of "Surprising" data:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.

 

This is an astounding series of statements! It really is!

Every single Engineer on the planet will disagree with Itsu's statement that a 1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor is Superior!

 

Proving Incorrect

In the following circuits, you can see the Voltage Drop across the Load and the Current Sensing Resistor:

 

You can see, with a 1 Volt Supply, with a 0.5 Ohm Load, we get a greater Voltage Drop across the 1 Ohm Resistor than the Load, this means, more Energy is being wasted in the 1 Ohm Resistor than is being consumed in the Load!

This Circuit, because we introduced the 1 Ohm Resistor is now Mal-Performing by a factor of: 2

This circuit is NOT being measured properly, because we have changed the Circuit by introducing 2x In-Circuit Impedance is not greater than the Load!

 

 

This Circuit, because we introduced the 0.1 Ohm Resistor is now Mal-Performing by a factor of: 0.2, an improvement of 10 times!

Now we can say we have reduced the In Circuit Impedance by 10 Times and also have a Circuit that is MUCH Closer to the actual way the Circuit is supposed to actually work!

It is Best Practice to measure a Circuit, with minimal Introduction of Impedances!

 

Current Sensing Resolution

How does Resolution work?

The Voltage Drop over a Resistor is using the Ohms Law equations to determined Current via: I = V / R

NOTE: Current Sensing Resistors are ideal at specific Ranges of Currents! Beyond those Ranges, they are not adequate and should be replaced with adequate Resistors!

As far as I understand, 50mV per division is Industry Standard Baseline for Noise test. So anything below 50mV per division is not useful for accurate Measurement.

People must think about this! This is important!

If we plot, the Voltage Steps vs the Current we see something that is very important:

 

The deviation between the 1 Ohm Resistor and the 0.1 Ohm Resistor grows linearly, this means, the Error is greater per Voltage Step, on the 1.0 Ohm Resistor! Yes, Error!

For every 50mV step, which is mA if on has the Scope set correctly, is: 10x

What does this mean? Well, we are able to Measure much more finely, we can Measure, 10mA to 1mA, let me show you:

 

There you have it, the Resolution is much greater on the 0.1 Ohm Resistor than the 1 Ohm Resistor, we lost a whopping: 45mA compared to the 0.1 Ohm Resistor: 4.5mA. So you see here, we have 10 times the Resolution with a 0.1 Ohm Resistor! 10 Times More Accurate! Simply: 0.1 Ohms is 10x the Resolution of a 1.0 Ohms Resistor!

 

A Resistor is a Resistor is a Resistor

NO! You need to carefully select a Resistor to do the Job! The exact same waveform should always be available every single time between the Resistors, except for the above stated Resolution issues! If the waveform is in any way distorted, throw away the Current Sensing Resistor and get a Good One!

We have very carefully selected the 0.1 Ohm 1% Tolerance, Metal Strip Through Hole Resistor to accurately give measurements in median Current Ranges! Others can try to find fault all they like, but really, they just show how un-educated they are about such things!

A good Current Sensing Resistor should be nothing more than a piece of Wire of Known Impedance. Remember, keep all wire lengths short as possible! Always!

 

 

Conclusion

I hope you can see, why we are Light Years ahead of the other Forums! This, what I have shown here is simple stuff and they should know this stuff!

It is Industry Standard to use Very Low Resistance Current Sensing Resistors! This is very well known! Extremely Low Resistances, even as low as 0.0001 Ohms, or 100 μOhms.

 

I recommend all to do their own research and even check and double check what I say!

 

Rigol DP832 Precision Power Supply Current Shunt Resistor: 0.02 Ohms 1% Tollerance

 

The top of the line Keysight Current Probe uses a 0.1 Ohm Sensing Resistor! Thanks Jagau for the link!

Don't let yourself be led up the Garden Path, is easy, if you let this happen!

NOTE: This group of people that have been calling: "Measurement Error", on your machines for decades! Do you see why I have done what I have done?

Stick to Facts, Logic and what Makes Sense!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Chris posted this 20 November 2020

My Friends,

For your reference:

 

Again:

The top of the line Keysight Current Probe uses a 0.1 Ohm Sensing Resistor! AC and DC Probe! The lack of education in this field is astounding! See why we are Light Years Ahead of the Other Forums! Thanks Jagau for the link!

 

Fact

If your Current Sensing Resistor has no more Inductance than a piece of Wire of the same length, then its affect in the Circuit will be no more problematic than that of a length of Wire! Common-Sense should always prevail! This is WHY we use tiny Resistances! To also minimise the Inductances! Keep your Wire Lengths short as possible, especially at High Frequencies.

 

I wont be trying to help Itsu any more. Itsu is not following Industry Standard Best Practices!

Rigol Precision Power Supply is just as accurate with switched, as DC Currents! These Statements made, I urge you to beware of! It is very easy to prove otherwise! No matter what the circuit and measurement method, stray Inductances are always a problem!

We have proven, at the frequencies we work with, Aboveunity.com's Measurement Block is on par with the Rigol DP832 Precision Power Supply! Proving we have accurate Measurement Protocols! I cant speak for other forums however!

I have given, and shown all I need in my last, above, post to show you what you need to know.

 

Beware:

Never let anyone else tell you your Measurements are not correct! If you have followed our Protocol, there is a very good chance, you are pretty accurate! Very much more Accurate than any one else, elsewhere on Other Forums! Remember, any Measurement is always just an Approximation, and should never be expected to be 100% Correct! 

The truth of the matter is, they are not qualified to make Judgment!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Jagau posted this 12 December 2020

Hi loz
As Chris tells you don't let others think your measurement protocol is inappropriate. Don't trust those who come up with great theories not verified by the community who knows what they're talking about like John Bedini.


John Bedini used the same type of measurement as us with a resistance of 0.01ohm for the measurement of the input current during the 2014 Electronic Conference


See it in, Bedini SG advanced handbook page 28


In the book that Peter Lindemann wrote on "energy science and technology conference 2014", he describes very well how to do measures taken this way with this kind of resistance. I believe that if two engineers qualified in the fields of energy research made this decision we can certainly trust them.


There are of course more expensive means to take these measures but we go with what we have. Our established protocol is a good foundation and it is reliable. There is always a way to improve.


We can't wait to hear back from you my friend


Jagau

Chris posted this 12 December 2020

My Friends,

Jagau is Wise, he is correct!

I have said before, the Measurement protocols we use are sound and legitimate!

I have a Friend that has given me these protocols from a Hewlett Packard Electrical Engineer! This Hewlett Packard Engineer used to Design and Build Measurement Equipment for Hewlett Packard! All I will say, is his name was Bob: ( Robert ). I am not saying any more because I was asked to be quiet on this and I will!

I have another Friend that taught me, on the Bench how to implement these Protocols! An Electrical Engineer, Trained in the Military, with decades of experience! Thank You Gerry!

Anyone that challenges this simple Science is either Stupid, or a Troll!

We truly have the Best Measurement Protocols of any Forum in the World! We are very advanced in the Field and I challenge anyone to better Our Already Extremely well Documented Protocols!

Any and every single Measurement is an Approximation and never 100% Correct! Always, there exists a margin of Error! The skill in taking any measurement, is to minimise this Margin of Error and this is exactly what we do!

Between a $2,000.00 Current probe and a $1.50 CSR, 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor, there may be a 1% Margin of Error. ( As long as one chooses a GOOD Resistor, NOT a Rubbish one! )

Do the math, anyone that is not smart enough to figure this out, and do the math, they are simply Trolling you!

Plain and Simple! I am really not a fan of Trolls!

 

NEVER ALLOW others to make judgement for you!

 

Always do your own Homework! Learn why a very small value Current Sensing Resistor in circuit can be so Accurate! Learn the basics! Little steps for little feet! But, NEVER ALLOW Others to make judgement for you! Advice is ok, but check and double check that advice! Even advice from Me!

NOTE: Some Members here on this forum, are extremely advanced and highly Educated in the Field of Electrical Engineering! They have also contributed to this Protocol! Beware, before you put your foot in your mouth! We have Measurement, Down, and Accurate!

We will not tolerate Trolls Here!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: I do, so very much, wish others would replicate this and share as the good Captain has. This is so simple and it works! We have a Track Record better than ANY other! What we are sharing, WORKS! Its just Understanding!

 

Chris posted this 13 December 2020

My Friends,

This Thread is starting to go off topic!

Everyone needs to realise, if they do not already, Failure is entirely dependent on Understanding!

If one has not gained an Understanding, one will likely Fail!

I am sure, All Members here, that have succeeded, will agree?

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: The Message to Loz and others, is simply, a Successful Machine, in no way means any sort of Measurement Error! With Knowledge and Understanding, this is so simple, easily possible, that All Trolls out there now look like Dummies! Our Measurement Protocol is sound, that this, Can Not be over looked by any Scientist that is doing Real Science! Only a Troll can dismiss this!

Captainloz posted this 14 December 2020

Hi Guys,

I agree the measuring protocols we have here are solid and should be followed. Trust me I learned the hard way! I embarrassed myself a couple times...

The big problem I keep having is putting too much current through my measurement resistors. It does have an affect on their accuracy if you get them to the point when they turn blue from the heat. 

I've been working on a couple other devices that didn't pan out... so now focusing on Asymmetrical transformer again!  All roads keep leading me back to this type of transformer. wink

Cheers,

Loz

Jagau posted this 15 December 2020

Hello Loz


Yes, I believe like you that the key to our future research and success should focus on the asymmetry of transformers and their operation. I am preparing another thread on the subject, in parallel with the one I have at the moment. It deserves a thread on its own I think because it applies to all of us and I will try to document it as much as possible.

with demonstration proving its proper functioning


Jagau

Chris posted this 15 December 2020

You Guys are Wise!

Logic Dictates we must follow the path of least Resistance and Optimum Result! Which IS what we are sharing!

Distraction and disarray must be eliminated!

People with common-sense will pickup the Ball and Learn what we are sharing! If they only knew what's possible!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 16 December 2020

My Friends,

It seems some are actually starting to wake up to the Facts?

NOTE: When people Fail, it is because they do not grasp the FACTS!

When many Rabbit Holes exist, it is easy to get caught going down endless Rabbit Holes! One must think logically, look at presented evidence. Look at what facts can be extracted. Itsu has made an interesting statement:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder

 

NOTE: I have used Off the Shelf Parts, all parts that are easily accessible to ANYONE! It should not be up to me to make things accessible to others, others should be able to do it for themselves also!

It is, very, clearly, obvious, Itsu has the wrong Mindset! Is Achievement in his skillset?

Itsu's greater than $2,000.00 Current Probe will have more Inductance than the 0.1 Ohm Current Sensing Resistor, but I think we all know where he is trying to go!

 

A piece of Wire the same length has more Inductance, check the Datasheet!

 

 

Don't forget, it was Itsu that told CaptainLoz to use a 1 Ohm Wire-wound Resistor to make measurements! Didn't we all learn how big a mistake that was!

 

I really hope Itsu is able to make progress! Many Hundreds of Others have! Itsu now has learned a great deal about taking Measurement! He should be able to achieve this very simple task! I hope! Especially with Loz helping him!

I was going to give up and no longer try to follow and help, I have done far more than my fair share! I will be giving this away soon and concentrating on other things! I have already done way more than most, to assist in this field!

I grow tired, I have started loosing patience, I see I have helped some, but most, are no better off. Most simply can not be helped! They cant help themselves let-alone be helped by others!

NOTE: I do believe, Itsu still has no idea, how accurate a Good, low Resistance Low Tolerance, Current Sensing Resistor actually can be! 

All Precision Equipment use this simple cheap Tech:

 

Don't Forget, Kirchhoff Current Law:

Kirchhoff's current law (1st Law) states that current flowing into a node (or a junction) must be equal to current flowing out of it. This is a consequence of charge conservation. Kirchhoff's voltage law (2nd Law) states that the sum of all voltages around any closed loop in a circuit must equal zero.

 

This is Why a CSR is so Accurate! Don't use Rubbish CSR's, choose good ones! Beware: We use 1% Tolerance, one can purchase 5% also, so if someone presents a CSR with 5% then this error will be very much greater! Beware of this!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 27 December 2020

My Friends,

Need I say any more here:

Ref Itsu's workbench / placeholder.

 

 

Do you see a MASSIVE, very MAJOR ERROR in Itsu's Work?

 

I get the feeling a lot of this is going on over there:

 

Itsu's focus on CaptainLoz's Frequency is detriment to his understanding, as 99% of our work is no where near these sorts of Frequencies!

E.G: Mine was 3Khz.

Floyd Sweets was 409Hz and then 60Hz.

Do not let Frequency be misleading! Itsu has missed a MASSIVE piece of the Puzzle! Massive Piece! So many desperate assumptions!

 

Self Running machines, we have them! Itsu and co, do not!

 

So many acts of desperation coming from this group!

Beware of infiltration:

 

Itsu said he did not want to be a Member of this forum, do you know why he said this?

Some Members here are not who they say they are! Or WHO pretend to be! Beware! Careful WHO you trust!

I do track all IP's and track Times of all logins and Site Visits. I generally know who is who! How, timing of posts and IP's with related data, you'd be very surprised how much data can be gained!!!

NO Personal data is stored! 

Who here, can tell me what Itsu has entirely missed? Making Itsu's work completely irrelevant and even misleading! Like you, I expect nothing but misleading from that group!

This Massive, very MAJOR ERROR will see them gone for ever! All Credibility GONE, their track Record, will make them the Laughing Stock! Laughed out of Town!

 

OMG this is a TOTAL Laugh! Massive Laugh, unbelievable! They all were so sure they had explained our work away, but when you see the answer, VERY SIMPLE, Electrical Engineering 101, you will not believe their act of desperation!

I hope you see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Chris posted this 28 December 2020

My Friends,

I was going to wait and let someone else answer this question:

Who here, can tell me what Itsu has entirely missed? Making Itsu's work completely irrelevant and even misleading!

 

The Following renders Itsu's work completely irrelevant and misleading!

 

Electrical resonance occurs in an AC circuit when the two reactances which are opposite and equal cancel each other out as XL = XC and the point on the graph at which this happens is were the two reactance curves cross each other. In a series resonant circuit, the resonant frequency, ƒr point can be calculated as follows.

 

 

We can see then that at resonance, the two reactances cancel each other out thereby making a series LC combination act as a short circuit with the only opposition to current flow in a series resonance circuit being the resistance, R. In complex form, the resonant frequency is the frequency at which the total impedance of a series RLC circuit becomes purely “real”, that is no imaginary impedance’s exist. This is because at resonance they are cancelled out. So the total impedance of the series circuit becomes just the value of the resistance and therefore:  Z = R.

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit

 

CaptainLoz's circuit is in Resonance! It is a very basic Requirement, which means, VERY BASIC Electrical Engineering Requires all Impedance become the DC Resistance of the Circuit!

We have been through this many many times and all here know this stuff inside out!

Where do we find Maximum Current Output: Resonance or where Reactance is Zero!

Very basic Electrical Engineering knowledge and skills and they opted to ENTIRELY Miss the important information to try and explain our work! A miserable failure is an understatement!

 

FAILED!

 

I urge all here, that read their posts, to see, how easily it is to be deceived! Let no one DECEIVE YOU! 

And the "Self Proclaimed Guru's" fall to the bottom of the heap, showing their attempt, to mislead others!

 

Itsu, on the forum he is a Member of:

 

I hope you see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Chris posted this 28 December 2020

Hey  CD,

Yes you're right!

Itsu is trying to show stray Inductance, saying stray inductance is one of our issues. It is something to be considered, but as you know, we have already covered this, and are well aware of this, loop E.M.F creating false readings. 

Vidura has covered this in great detail in our Measurements thread.

Impedance does change with frequency, Itsu is right about this, but clearly he does not understand that at resonance, Impedance becomes the DC Resistance. Normal rules, keep very short wire lengths on High Frequency machines, most of us do not work at high frequency!

In the Image you posted, it is blatantly obvious Itsu has no idea how a scope probe works! There is zero electric loop in the Scope Probe like Itsu has tried to show!

The above posts are very important for all here and elsewhere to read! Just as important to Understand. They are not the guru's they would like to have you believe, in point of fact, they make simple mistakes all the time and are not trust worthy! Simply they are not qualified to make any decisions or judgements on technology they have no idea how it works!

But, they do try, and we have seen them Fail Miserably, in a flaming ball of Triple Face Palms!!!

 

I really do wish every Member and Reader would closely study the posts: Here and Here. It is really important others see what we face, and how Totally Wrong they are! And how deliberately they try to push their agenda!

If only, they were a little smarter and did not end up putting their foot in their mouths all the time!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 29 December 2020

My Friends,

Itsu's response:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.

 

Like the 1 ohm, Wire Wound Resistor, maybe this is a lesson that can not be taught here? Maybe one must learn from experience on this one. I have zero care about Itsu gaining any knowledge from us here, but I do care about others that have the Will to Learn and Evolve!

 

For Members and Other Readers:

Reactance is Circuit specific, Period. Reactance comes from Frequency the Circuit is running at! This means, as I gave reference to, the Series Resonant Circuit, like so:

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit

 

The Inductor, Capacitor and the Resistance shown, which is showing the Inductor and Capacitor Resistance ESR  and so on, the entire Circuit, every single bit of that Circuit, has No Reactance at Resonance!

  1. Never forget, Reactance is AC Resistance!
  2. Resistance limits Current Flow!
  3. We see Maximum Current Flow! Period! This means No Reactance!

 

Never forget this, it is simple Electrical Engineering 101, every single First Year EE should know this inside out! It is very important to know and understand!

For example: Add a second Inductor with known Inductance, retune the Circuit, to its new resonant Frequency, again the Reactance disappears, but only when Resonant!

Again, we have yet another example of others making a mammoth effort to try to explain OUR Work away with an understanding that is Completely In-adequate and Intellectually Challenged at Best!

They FAILED!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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deleted posted this 30 December 2020

Howdy,

Generally speaking: When does resonance happen without a C?

I think the "resonance" to look for is in the 180 phase difference of the 2 output coils, like you demonstrated with an AC signal. a pulse must then be a 1/4 wavelength iirc.

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Chris posted this 30 December 2020

Hello Alann,

C is the Distributed Capacitance in the Circuit, between the turns and so on, All components have an element of C as they do Inductance L and Resistance R.

A Coil, standing alone, by it self will resonate at it's own Frequency, as does an Antenna! Does an Antenna loose all its Reactance at Resonance? Yes it does, it is Resonant and the Maximum Current can Flow!

 

When an oscillating force is applied at a resonant frequency of a dynamical system, the system will oscillate at a higher amplitude than when the same force is applied at other, non-resonant frequencies." 

So antenna resonance results in no reactance in the impedance at the feed point.

Ref: resonant half wave dipole?

 

I really do wish, the self-proclaimed gurus, over there, would wake up to their understanding that is Completely In-adequate and Intellectually Challenged at Best!

There is a lot of this going on over there:

 

I suggest, do some homework over on the other forums and count how many times they have made the call: "Measurement Error".

Then look at this very simple, extremely simple, data, I have shown them to be completely wrong and entirely In-adequate in their understanding! Imagine how many times before, they have been completely wrong about their assumptions! Like they are completely wrong here! 

 

Any and All Inductances, in a Resonant Circuit, lose their Reactance's, period, at Resonance, and any person disagreeing with this basic, Electrical Engineering, First Year, Textbook, Knowledge, is outright misleading you! 

It is clear, they are simply plucking straws from fresh air to suit a faulty analysis! They have no idea what so ever how an Antenna Works!

 

Again I quote:

At resonance the impedance of the CIRCUIT is equal to the resistance value as Z = R.

Ref: Series Resonance Circuit

 

It is classically funny watching them squirm out of this massive, very major Error! They are so, absolutely, totally, wrong!

 

At Resonance, Maximum Current, where: One Ampere = 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second, past Terminal T1, must flow through the entire Circuit with only the DC Resistance as the Current's Impedance. This is Circuit Specific! This is unable to occur if Reactance's are in Effect! 

What they are effectively trying to tell you is the following Circuit can be resonant with L1 and C1, but not L2:

 

This is just out right Ludacris and Foolish! Any Halfling knows one must re-tune the Circuit to find the Frequency of CIRCUIT Resonance! Which will be close to: ω0 = 1 / (√LC) or fr = 1 / (2π (√LC)) Damping Factor ( ζ ) is worth learning more about, where they call instability, is an area of interest:

Ref: Whirl Speed and Stability Analysis

 

I want to say UFB but don't want to, how about Triple Face Palm!

 

Do not let yourself be Misled! Know the Facts Only, and disregard any thing other than the Facts!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

P.S: There is something else they have totally left out, a very important aspect, which I will keep under my hat for the moment, as ammo to further prove them wrong! This is a VERY Important piece to this very SIMPLE puzzle!

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Chris posted this 31 December 2020

My Friends,

I want to point you to a very good, an excellent article, in old ascii, that gives the really pure old school basics on this debate.

I have proven them Wrong, any Year One, or greater, Electrical Engineer, knows this! But, I decided to post more proof as promised! I ask, please read this carefully, it is not as easy to grasp as one might think:

Keep in mind, we are now talking Transmission Lines:

 

TERMINATING A TRANSMISSION LINE

A transmission line is either NONRESONANT or RESONANT. First, let us define the terms nonresonant lines and resonant lines. A nonresonant line is a line that has no standing waves of current and voltage. A resonant line is a line that has standing waves of current and voltage.

Nonresonant Lines

A nonresonant line is either infinitely long or terminated in its characteristic impedance. Since no reflections occur, all the energy traveling down the line is absorbed by the load which terminates the line. Since no standing waves are present, this type of line is sometimes spoken of as a FLAT line. In addition, because the load impedance of such a line is equal to Z0, no special tuning devices are required to effect a maximum power transfer; hence, the line is also called an UNTUNED line.

Resonant Lines

A resonant line has a finite length and is not terminated in its characteristic impedance. Therefore reflections of energy do occur. The load impedance is different from the Z0 of the line; therefore, the input impedance may not be purely resistive but may have reactive components. Tuning devices are used to eliminate the reactance and to bring about maximum power transfer from the source to the line. Therefore, a resonant line is sometimes called a TUNED line. The line also may be used for a resonant or tuned circuit.

A resonant line is sometimes said to be resonant at an applied frequency. This means that at one frequency the line acts as a resonant circuit. It may act either as a high-resistive circuit (parallel resonant) or as a low-resistive circuit (series resonant). The line may be made to act in this manner by either open- or short-circuiting it at the output end and cutting it to some multiple of a quarter-wavelength.

At the points of voltage maxima and minima on a short-circuited or open-circuited line, the line impedance is resistive. On a short-circuited line, each point at an odd number of quarter-wavelengths from the receiving end has a high impedance (figure 3-31, view A). If the frequency of the applied voltage to the line is varied, this impedance decreases as the effective length of the line changes. This variation is exactly the same as the change in the impedance of a parallel-resonant circuit when the applied frequency is varied.

Figure 3-31. - Sending-end impedance of various lengths and terminations.

At all even numbered quarter-wavelength points from the short circuit, the impedance is extremely low. When the frequency of the voltage applied to the line is varied, the impedance at these points increases just as the impedance of a series-resonant circuit varies when the frequency applied to it is changed. The same is true for an open-ended line (figure 3-31, view B) except that the points of high and low impedance are reversed.

At this point let us review some of the characteristics of resonant circuits so we can see how resonant line sections may be used in place of LC circuits.

 

A PARALLEL-RESONANT circuit has the following characteristics:

  • At resonance the impedance appears as a very high resistance. A loss-free circuit has infinite impedance (an open circuit). Other than at resonance, the impedance decreases rapidly.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point above the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too low), more current flows through the coil than through the capacitor. This happens because XL decreases with a decrease in frequency but XC increases.

A SERIES-RESONANT circuit has these characteristics:

  • At resonance the impedance appears as a very low resistance. A loss-free circuit has zero impedance (a short circuit). Other than at resonance the impedance increases rapidly.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point above the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too low), then XC is larger than XL and the circuit acts capacitively.
  • If the circuit is resonant at a point below the generator frequency (the generator frequency is too high), then XL is larger than XC and the circuit acts inductively.

Since the impedance a generator sees at the quarter-wave point in a shorted line is that of a parallel-resonant circuit, a shorted quarter-wave- length of line may be used as a parallel-resonant circuit (figure 3-31, view C). An open quarter-wavelength of line may be used as a series-resonant circuit (view D). The Q of such a resonant line is much greater than can be obtained with lumped capacitance and inductance.

Impedance for Various Lengths of Open Lines

In figure 3-32, the impedance (Z) the generator sees for various lengths of line is shown at the top. The curves above the letters of various heights show the relative value of the impedances presented to the generator for the various line lengths. The circuit symbols indicate the equivalent electrical circuits for the transmission lines at each particular length. The standing waves of voltage and current are shown on each length of line.

Figure 3-32. - Voltage, current, and impedance on open line.

At all odd quarter-wave points (1/4l, 3/4l, etc.), the voltage is minimum, the current is maximum, and the impedance is minimum. Thus, at all odd quarter-wave points, the open-ended transmission line acts as a series-resonant circuit. The impedance is equivalent to a very low resistance, prevented from being zero only by small circuit losses.

At all even quarter-wave points (1/2l, 1l, 3/2l, etc.), the voltage is maximum, the current is minimum, and the impedance is maximum. Comparison of the line with an LC resonant circuit shows that at an even number of quarter-wavelengths, an open line acts as a parallel-resonant circuit. The impedance is therefore an extremely high resistance.

In addition, resonant open lines may also act as nearly pure capacitances or inductances. The illustration shows that an open line less than a quarter-wavelength long acts as a capacitance. Also, it acts as an inductance from 1/4 to 1/2 wavelength, as a capacitance from 1/2 to 3/4 wavelength, and as an inductance from 3/4 to 1 wavelength, etc. A number of open transmission lines, with their equivalent circuits, are shown in the illustration.

Impedance of Various Lengths of Shorted Lines

Follow figure 3-33 as we study the shorted line. At the odd quarter-wavelength points, the voltage is high, the current is low, and the impedance is high. Since these conditions are similar to those found in a parallel-resonant circuit, the shorted transmission line acts as a parallel-resonant circuit at these lengths.

Figure 3-33. - Voltage, current, and impedance on shorted line.

At the even quarter-wave points voltage is minimum, current is maximum, and impedance is minimum. Since these characteristics are similar to those of a series-resonant LC circuit, a shorted transmission line whose length is an even number of quarter-wavelengths acts as a series-resonant circuit.

Resonant shorted lines, like open-end lines, also may act as pure capacitances or inductances. The illustration shows that a shorted line less than 1/4 wavelength long acts as an inductance. A shorted line with a length of from 1/4 to 1/2 wavelength acts as a capacitance. From 1/2 to 3/4 wavelength, the line acts as an inductance; and from 3/4 to 1 wavelength, it acts as a capacitance, and so on. The equivalent circuits of shorted lines of various lengths are shown in the illustration. Thus, properly chosen line segments may be used as parallel-resonant, series-resonant, inductive, or capacitive circuits.

Ref: TERMINATING A TRANSMISSION LINE.

 

As the good Captain noted and I stated as a requirement, the Length of the Coils and Wires are important!

As stated above, All Power is delivered to the Load, there is No Loss! We have ZERO Electrical Power Reflections! The Circuit is a Tuned Line! There is only One Node and only one Antinode, this is at the Load!

Again, I reference:

At resonance the impedance appears as a very low resistance. A loss-free circuit has zero impedance (a short circuit). Other than at resonance the impedance increases rapidly.

 

It really, truly, does not get any more simple than this!

What happens in any Transmission Line where the Nodes and Antinodes are at an absolute Minimum?

NOTE: Floyd Sweet does speak about this also!

This article is also good on Transmission Line Resonances: Here

The Fact of the Matter:

 

Self Running Machines, we have them! Itsu and co, do not!

 

They are Totally and Utterly Wrong and that's all there is to it! They very clearly have a very Poor Understanding of Power Technologies! If you can understand this Quoted Document, you will see how terribly wrong and In-adequate their Understanding is! They are not qualified to Boil Potatoes! Sorry but true!

It now should be extremely clear how you MUST NOT Allow yourself to be Misled! FACTS Only! Trust no one that is willing to steer you WRONG!

Nothing aggravates me more than others making active attempts to steer others Wrong! This is so very frustrating!

Best Wishes, and Happy New Year!

   Chris

Vidura posted this 31 December 2020

Very good and simply explained the article. Would be nice if we could organise this kind of information in the resources section. This can be very useful and on spot to improve our devices. Of course it has to been taken in account for Measurements to place the CSR and voltage probe as close as possible to the load, to minimise influence of reactance. Thanks Chris!

Chris posted this 31 December 2020

My Friends,

What is a real shame, is how far behind they are! It is so easy to make a simulation show something you WANT it to show! This is not Science!

What is Reactance? It is an In Line Reflection, Resisting Current Flow, creating a higher Impedance Path! Zero Reactance means No added Impedance to the Path, Current can flow only impeded by the DC Resistance! There is No AC Resistance when XL + -XC = 0!

 

Remember: There is a difference between Power and Magnetic Field Standing Waves, we:

  1. Don't want Electrical Standing Waves, in the same Wire!
  2. Do want Magnetic Standing Waves! But, in different Wires! One Wire represents the Blue Wave, the other Wire the Red Wave, thus: Partnered Output Coils!

 

Vidura is right, a Miss-Match, of Frequency vs Line Length, will result in Reactance and thus more Impedance as is already pointed out. The Point is to avoid this Miss-Match, E.G: Maximum Current Amplitude on the Output!

This was pointed out by Floyd Sweet:

Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power. The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch.

Ref: Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - Magnetic Resonance

 

You see now, why we are Light Years Ahead of the other forums!

Best Wishes, and Happy New Year!

   Chris

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Munny posted this 01 January 2021

Do want Magnetic Standing Waves! But, in different Wires! One Wire represents the Blue Wave, the other Wire the Red Wave, thus: Partnered Output Coils!

 

I have to reiterate the above statement.  I have known about standing waves for years, but I never made this particular observation or specific consideration.  It has to be magnetic or in the magnetic domain.  An electrical standing wave was always my prior assumption.  The problem is with electrical, you have both the dielectric and magnetic which gives us no advantage dealing with Lenz Law, but if we are dealing only with magnetic, it's a different ball game.  The reason being is impedance, which is basically a real-time application of Ohms Law.  Just imagine for a moment what can be done when you can blank out one of the three variables in Ohms Law--the math becomes completely different.

I'm not sure why I made the assumption that I did, but I suspect I wasn't the only one to do so, which is why I highlighted Chris' statement.  It's another one of those very obscure, but very important distinction we have to be aware of.

Thank you kindly for pointing this out Chris.  I could have easily gone another ten years without picking up on it.

Munny posted this 02 January 2021

Guys, a magnetic standing wave is what happens in Mr Preva experiment.

I have a thought here I'd like to get people's opinion about...

 

Consider the ferromagnetic material (the core) for a moment and what we know about waves transitioning a medium.  If we have a solid core like a toroid, the magnetic waves will just circulate around and around with superposition being the only real means where a standing wave can form.  There are no reflections because the core material is consistent all the way around.

Conversely, let's look at a split core or open core.

At the "ends" of the core where we transition from a ferromagnetic material to air, we are bound to get magnetic wave reflections.  It's my feeling these magnetic reflections will setup the conditions for standing waves far better than we could ever achieve from a solid core.  My question is then:  Has anyone had success with a solid core?  My gut feeling tells me no way.  The only way to get the kind of standing waves we need is to have magnetic reflections, so the core must be open ended or have some form of air gap, even if it is very tiny.  With reflected magnetic waves creating the standing waves, we would have locations (nodes) about the core where we can precisely position our L2 and L3 coils and maximize our current output.  Captainloz explicitly mentioned moving his coils around to get the best output.  If my thinking here is correct, the reason why becomes rather obvious.

 

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Chris posted this 02 January 2021

Hello Munny,

Please, do not over complicate this. Please understand, when I say this, I know how easy it is, to over complicate simple things, and that's what I struggled with for some time! I say this only to help!

  • Partnered Output Coils = Magnetic Fields Opposing. 
  • Core = Magnetic Field Containment and Directing/Focusing.
  • Core Gap, sometimes required.
  • Coils = Ideal Path for Current Flow = Waveguide! Tuned medium for a Wave of Current to Propagate!

 

The Electric "Generator" or Dynamo is the best Analogy for what is occurring here!

 

One Partnered Output Coil being the Stator Coil! The other Partnered Output Coil being the Rotor Coil! The Input Coil being the Simulation of Shaft Rotation! Like Figuera said:

Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion...

...

when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.

 

If you fully understand what's occurring here, we can use Asymmetry, to make this System Work with excess Gains!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 09 January 2021

My Friends,

They are still scrambling, even going as far as using red highlighted text, its beyond a joke!

While they may have a chuckle at the odd comment made here, we are Laughing Out Loud at their inability to grasp a bigger picture!

Itsu now admits he got some of his work wrong and has at least publically explained this to be so!

Taking readings, on an In Circuit Element, Out Of Circuit, and assuming it behaves the same, in and out of the Circuit, is a Massive Mistake! This is TOTALLY FOOLISH and they should know better!

They still do not understand Resonance of a Transmission Line! 

 

If 10 Miles of Transmission line has no Reactance at Resonance, do you think 150 Millimeters ( mm ) of Transmission line has no Reactance also, at Resonance?

Ref: Terminating a Transmission Line

 

You can see: Z = R, this means, there is No Reactance and R is only the DC Resistance. The Minimum Impedance is the DC Resistance R. This simple tech, very simple tech, they are entirely oblivious to!

 

Remember:

Resonance frequencies may be maintained quite constant at high power levels so long as the load remains constant. We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power.

The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch.

Ref: Magnetic Resonance - By Floyd A. Sweet. Ph.D.

 

It is a real shame, they do not know about basic Transmission Line Impedance at Resonance! They truly are showing how wrong they really are!

This Intellectual Handicap shows why We are Light Years Ahead of the other Forums! It is funny, beyond description to watch!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Chris posted this 10 January 2021

My Friends,

This is their proof:

Ref: Itsu's workbench / placeholder.

 

Can anyone see anything that ISN'T a MASSIVE ERROR here?

What have they missed: Everything!

 

 

Well, this proves it beyond a doubt, they are not, in any way, out to prove a device works!

They are out to falsify data, to suitably prove, to them ONLY,  it doesn't:

FAKE NEWS!!!

 

This circuit, in no way, even remotely, resembles what we have been sharing! Nothing in this circuit remotely resembles a Resonant Transmission Line! Entirely missed all requirements!

This is like saying: I am going to build a Space Rocket out of my box of Raisins and fly to the moon!

UFB!

 

We have exposed them, now all readers know what they are about! All readers know, can see, we have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, they have:

Nothing, Nada, Zip, Zilch!

 

How terribly embarrassing for them, this has to be one of their biggest mistakes ever! What ever happened to Professional Circuit Analysis?

From Itsu's own mouth:

 

Do you see what I mean by this now:

 

See what we have been up against for so long?

My Friends, trust Facts Only! Facts will not steer you wrong! Ever! Never trust Fake News! Learn to spot Fake News, if you have not already, it is a very useful ability to have!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Jagau posted this 10 January 2021

Hello Chris


I have no doubts in choosing a 0.1 CSR for the captloz experiment.
All the criteria have been observed with the standards of the company Dale which makes them the specifications with very high proven technologies.


Engineers and very knowledgeable people use this resistance model every day and that is why Dale sells it.
In addition, another characteristic which should not be neglected is the thermal coefficient of this type of resistance which greatly affects their value if certain conditions of use are not respected. This is why we must not exceed a certain power.
Forget those who do not understand here we have understood well, that's why we are not here to misinform but to learn new technologies with a desire to learn while letting others make mistakes and then better understand what that they did not understand
Jagau

Chris posted this 02 October 2021

My Friends,

I want to bump this thread again, really to rub it in our foes faces, on the other side, the Dark Side! To say some of them are Simple is an understatement!

 

The good Captain did an excellent job, we have the same results and we have the absolute best Measurement Protocols on the entire Internet! They tried to fault our Protocols, but failed miserably!

Anyone up for a Free Energy Machine? Its extremely simple!

Yup, We got the Power!

Don't forget, Fighter's ZPM is another example of our Free Energy, Above Unity Machines! Bucking Coils is the only real path to good energy gains!

Just read, watch, and learn what the Good Captain has learnt, and you're off to the races! Simple and Cheap!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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