POC effect

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baerndorfer posted this 27 August 2021

hi friends,

i need a place where i can show some of the interesting scope-shots that we can get when working with poc-coils.

take a look at this one...

CH1: voltage from primary coil (series tank circuit)

CH2: current from primary coil

CH3: POC under load (resistive and inductive load in parallel)

CH4: Source dipole (input voltage)

when you look at the voltage from source you can see when the switching happens (on/off). the output on poc is pumped up by the circulating current. even when the switch is off, we can see the energy generation on the poc coil.

a second one taken at higher frequency..


instead of poc output we see the power which is circulating inside the tank-circuit and the power which is consumed.

have a nice day!

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Chris posted this 28 August 2021

Hey Baerndorfer ,

Excellent thread My Friend!

Most EE's dont have any idea about Power, they focus specifically on the Circuit with very little effort to focus on the inner workings or the "Generation" of Electrical Energy and what the Fundamental Requirements are for the "Generation" of it!

Their Scientific approach stops at the Benchtop Power Supply Terminals: (Marked in Red)


How the Energy, V x I x t = Joules, even gets there in the first place, is a complete mystery to most EE's! A shame, as Power is a very Important World Changing Field of Study, but very few do!

We are World Leaders for this very reason!

So many people may not understand your scope shots, jumping to all sorts of conclusions due to this very same missunderstanding, or lack of experience. 

The Active Pumping of Elementary Charge Carriers is a fundamental, yet extremely simple process, once one has a full understanding, and you can very clearly see your Elementary Charge Pumping in your Scope Shots!

Best Wishes, Thanks for Sharng My Friend!


baerndorfer posted this 05 September 2021

i build a transformer for 230V/50Hz and make the secondary in POC-style... this is how the primary coil looks like

CH1: source voltage (230V grid)

CH2: current which is happening in primary coil

CH3: voltage after rectification on secondary

CH4: current through lightbulp on secondary

the voltage and current on primary is interesting. on the positive part of the cycle the current happens bevore the voltage - while on the negative cycle the current is in phase with the voltage. when we think of the opposing coils we know, that one part is always assisting the primary. so i think this is, what we can see here.


baerndorfer posted this 6 days ago

the primary coil (yellow wire) is energized by a pulse-circuit (lowside switching). the trigger-coil is laying on top of the primary. the second e-core is with 1mm distance (paper) placed over the first one.

the opposing coil is mounted on the second e-core and each leg is rectified with MUR4100 to a FKP capacitor (2uF/400V). centertap is on other side of cap. in parallel i do a charging on LiIon-Cells (16V). So this is measured under load.

this is what the oscilloscope shows..

CH1 - this is the pulse which goes through L1 primary coil.

CH2 - this is the current which travels to the LiIon-cells.

CH3 - one leg from POC coil

CH4 - other leg from POC coil

again this transformer gets a single sharp pulse on the primary. the responce from secondary is as explained many times here on this forum

Chris posted this 5 days ago

Hey Baerndorfer,

This is excellent work My Friend! Thank You for Sharing!

Another machine that is very similar is:


The Video Here:


Title Translation: Магниторезонансный источник энергии = Magnetic resonance energy source

I have posted this device already Here.

This is excellent work My Friend! Thank You for Sharing!

Best Wishes,


baerndorfer posted this 4 days ago

have not seen this variant of the switching circuit yet. thx chris for flodding us with beautiful infos all the time

i like to add a thermal image where we can see how primary and secondary side are performing.

primary side is on the right, output is on the left side (poc coil).


Chris posted this 4 days ago

Hey Baerndorfer,

One side Hot, one side Cold, just like the Yin Yang, I wonder why we see this, are we dealing with different Currents in each POC? I am speculating and can prove nothing in this area, so please understand, I keep this mostly quiet!

My Friend, this is totally awesome, great work!

Best Wishes,


baerndorfer posted this 4 days ago

hey chris, this is how the current from POC looks like..

on the first screenshot we can see the current on CH2 (cyan) which happens on POC leg1. CH3 (pink) is the voltage.

second screenshot: the current (CH2, cyan) which comes from POC leg2 (yellow) looks different - it hase more power.

the hot side from POC as shown in Flir-image is POC leg2.

have a nice day!

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scalarpotential posted this 3 days ago

So output I & V are not in phase and not according to Ohm's law?

Are the ringing oscillations caused by magnetic resonance?

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Chris posted this 3 days ago

Hey Scalarpotential,

Output from Partnered Output Coils, Voltage and Current is in Phase through a Resistive Load, Pure, Real Power.

Yes, Ohms Law applies, Current I = Voltage V / Resistance R and so on!

I do not understand the Scope Shots Baerndorfer kindly supplied. Baerndorfer's experiments are first class and always have been, but I cant explain what's going on in those shots. I am guessing there is a large Inductive Load, but this still does not explain the Voltage with very little, to no current! If Yellow was Current and Pink was Voltage, or the other way around, this would make more sense.

Best Wishes,


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