Greywolf47's Clemente Figuera Replication

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Greywolf47 posted this 12 December 2020

A different way to wind the coils and their arrangment.

The attached photo of the coil layout is powered from a 12 volt battery which powers a 750 watt inverter giving a 120 volt AC output. This powers a Hammond 1182 L 30 toroidal transformer with a center tap and (2) 30 volt AC outputs. These out puts are180 degrees inverted and are changed to DC voltage at about 12 volts and 4 amps using heavy duty diodes . Each of these powers the primary coils that are bifilar wound with 136 turns of 16 guage magnet wire. Over these primaries is wound the paired output coils that are wound with 900 turns of 22 guage magnet wire. These are wound in series in such a way that their outputs add to give 2 out puts of 200 volts that are 180 degrees inverted. I plan to add about 70 more turns to each secondary coil to give 220 volts to each leg.

 

 

When the coils are powered up without a load the the readout of the inverter is zero. When a load of (2) 100 watt light bulbs is added to one of the output coil sets, the wattage on the inverter reads 174 watts. I am still getting additional test equipment to get an exact power reading of what happens with the light bulbs. The secondary paired output coils are wound in the fashion of Don L. Smith's device that is a high frequency device. I am planning to wind one set in the pattern of Chris's paired output coils to see if I can get better output with higher amperage.

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Greywolf47 posted this 13 December 2020

I have rewound one of the coils with new primaries that are 140 turns of 16 guage magnet wire. The two primaries are wound as partnered coils with one being wound clockwise and the other being wound counter clockwise on the same laminated iron core. They are powered 180 degrees inverted with 12 volts DC . The ccw primary has a secondary of 980 turns of 22 guage wire also wound ccw. The cw primary is overwound with a secondary wound cw with 980 turns of 22 guage wire. The magnetic flux is VERY strong moving outwards toward the ends of the soft iron core. However there doesn't appear to be any amps associated with the voltage and this arrangement needs about 450 watts to power up. The primaries appear to be fighting each other. I will continue bench testing with different configurtions to test additional results. Any suggestions from the forum would be greatly appreciated.

Vidura posted this 13 December 2020

Hey greywolf, have you read the old thread Clemente Figuera? I followed with interest, there is a lot of bench work, and experimentation to learn from. Anyway I personally do not agree with the approach of placing an output coil between two electromagnets of like polarity. The reason is that in several parts of the patents the similarly to a AC generator or dynamo is mentioned. Focus on the principles, in these machines an electromagnet is rotated inside the stator winding, inducing currents in the latter. I do not mean that this would not occur using like poles on the magnets, but this is not the point. It is about how the rotation can be imitated with a solid state device. And how can the reaction (Lenz law) be used as a positive feedback.

Greywolf47 posted this 13 December 2020

Thanks for the comment and feedback. I have a book titled Electricity 1-7 by Harry Mileaf published in 1966 that has very good and easy to understand information about generators both AC and DC. I know it is just a matter of getting the coils to resonate with each other and varying the magnetic flux in them. There is no magic, just good investigation and understanding what is going on in the coils.

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

I have gone back to using the part G commutator that I built several years ago so that I can slow down the 60 hertz to a level that I can see what is happening with the changing flux. About 3 to 4 cycles per second gives good results. I use a 1/8 inch plexiglass and iron shavings over the coils in as close contact as possible. You can actually SEE the flux change in the coils as the particles dance on the plexiglass. I am charging the primaries with 24 volts from the commutator so that the pulsing DC voltage ranges from about 20 volts down to about 2 volts. It is very difficult to get an exact measurement because the voltage when the commutator is turning is vastly different than when it is stopped and measurements can be taken at each stage of the resistance. I am anxious to share photos but they are on my phone and the files are too big to load properly. I am trying to get them down in size but have to load them to my computer first.

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Vidura, I have read the thread you mentioned. The one I read was from 2018 and seemed to be monitored by MM. He shared some great information. Everyone seems to be trying to make this MUCH more difficult than it will ultimately turn out to be. Wrapping your head around the coil winding pattern in a dynamo or generator and how it lays out flat so that the coils can be charged in the right direction and pole and sequence can be very confusing and FRUSTRATING.

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Chris posted this 14 December 2020

Hey Greywolf47,

If I may, I want to ask, what is your theory of Operation as this is a critical step in the path forward.

Of course, Figuera was able to power a Load, meaning he had Voltage and Current at the Output Terminals.

So what is your theory of operation to ensure this is the case?

Reading your posts with enthusiasm and excitement to see progress! Thanks for sharing!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Chris, see the post above. I am trying to make a schematic of exactly how the coil pattern is wound in a stator(cw /ccw) and the SEQUENCE that they are charged with and the correct polarity. Everything is quite simple if it wasn't so CONFUSING. LOL

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

My commutator is made from a 4 inch schedule 40 PVC plastic pipe collar. I used 1 inch wide by 1/8 inch thick aluminium flat bar rolled around a 3 inch plastic pipe. The spring back after the bar is released creates a circle very near 4 inches inside. I cut these into segments that are 1/36th of the INSIDE circumference of the 4 inch collar. These were carefully drilled so that they could be evenly spaced INSIDE the 4 inch pipe collar with 1/64th in clearance between. The 4 inch pipe collar is drilled to match the spacing and location of each of these commutator contact plates. They are held in place with brass pan head bolts that are 3/4 inch long and 5/32nds in diameter. This work needs to be VERY precise so that there is uniformity in the spacing and that the edges of each contact plate is smooth to the ones on either side of it. If they are not smooth, the carbon brushes that are used will either hang up or bounce as they move from plate to plate.

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Vidura posted this 14 December 2020

Hi all following, agreed that it's quite simple. Think about the generator, you need to have a magnetic field, moving relative to the output winding, you could move either the electromagnet or the output coil. For a solid state device it is likely the first way, only that we would use a rotating magnetic field to replace the rotation of the electro magnet. Any Ideas? I've various, but not Bench tested. IMO there's a lot of confusion regarding the drawings in the patents. Imagine that you have a two dimensional image of a car for example. You would see only two wheels, despite that there are actually four. There are parts of the device that are not shown in the drawings, they are so to say hidden in the third dimension. Just some food for thoughts. Regards Vidura.

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

The brush assembly is mounted on a 1/2 steel shaft using steel collars with set screws. I used a segment of a welders soapstone holder and drilled a 1/2in hole in the center. I soldered this to the collar so it could be adjusted up or down on the shaft as necessary.

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Vidura, as for the drawings in the patent. What if the N and S coils are actually the ends of a single soft iron core that has been bifilar wound. This would allow the opposite DC pulsed to be put in from either end and create a changing flux such that the N pole becomes S pole and vice versa 60 times per second. The Y coil in between is the secondary that is being pulsed. In my build, there are 2 secondaries that are wound like Don Smith's high frequency device. This is my interpretation and is the way I am proceeding.

Chris posted this 14 December 2020

Hey Greywolf47,

Keep up the great work!

See: Help with using the Forum. This will help you add images and Videos to posts. Also other handy tricks and tips.

Adding more content helps others to see where you are at.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Thanks Chris, I am anxious to upload video and photos of my progress. A photo is worth a thousand words and a good video with explanation is worth about a billion. I have much to share and am anxious to share it here. My 50 year old son has a metal fabrication shop that helps me to build the parts I need. He has told me that he has NO interest in continuing my work after I'm gone. Therefore I am giving all my research to the forum. I am 73 and may live to be 90 but too much of this type research has been LOST by people who were not willing to share while they could. Thank you Chris for providing this forum so we CAN share.

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Chris, it seems all my videos are in the 28 Mb range. How can I edit to be under the 2 Mb limit?

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Chris posted this 14 December 2020

Hey Greywolf47,

See: Help with using the Forum. 

Images: 2Mb max.

Videos, either YouTube or upload using File Manager: 300Mb Max. Read more here: Uploading Videos for Members Only

This is all easy once you do it a few times. PM Me if you need help.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Chris, I have been only using my cell phone to read and write messages but I think to load videos and photos I will have to use my computer. Any suggestions on how to convert photos and videos from phone to computer?

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Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

Some background information for those studying energy devices. When looking at waves on an oscilloscope, you see 60Hz as 4 to 5 waves on the screen. In real time, each of those waves from peak to peak is a little over 3100 miles! When you think that electricical current induction in a coil actually resists the change, the flow of current is slowed down by resistance so that the second coil in a series of coils does not begin to charge up until the current in the first coil has reached it's maximum. This may only take milliseconds, but it is miles down the 3100 mile wave. If you have 21 primary coils all charging in series as in my device and the 42 secondaries are being induced at the same time each one is miles apart on the wave. This creates an electron pump that is pumping that 6.24 x 10 18th electrons per amp down the wire. It happens in miliseconds, but it all is in order.

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

When the wave goes below the zero point, the flow reverses and the process reverses, so that N poles become S poles and the electron flow is in the opposite direction. The SAME electrons that just went one way are now flowing back in the opposite direction! And this happens 60 times per second. So if you are flowing 10 ampheres of current, there is 6.24 times 10 to the 18th power times 10(amps) divided by 120 ( 1/2 cycles) gives the number of free electrons being pumped in each direction of the AC current.

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

A question that needs to be answered: When the magetic flux is flowing INSIDE the iron core, it is very concentrated, but when it flows out of the N pole of the electro magnet it is dispersed into lines of flux that flow from N poles and enter back into S pole. While it is passing through the aether that is filled with electrons flowing in RANDOM directions, how much of these random free electrons can be captured by the flux lines and ADDED to the total electron flow? IS THIS the free energy we are seeking?

Greywolf47 posted this 14 December 2020

If I understand correctly ( and I'm NEVER certain of that), each line of flux carries the SAME number of electrons reguardless of how far from the core they are located. The length of the flux lines get longer as you move away from the core and the spacing between the electrons gets greater, but the TOTAL number of electrons in each flux line is the same. The further the flux line is away from the core, the weaker it gets, but the number of electrons in that flux line is the same as the ones closer into the core.

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Chris posted this 14 December 2020

Hey GW,

Yes, its a little more difficult on ones phone. I recommend use the File Manager for all, Videos, Images and documents. This will be much easier.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 15 December 2020

I am back to bench testing different coil primaries and secondaries using the commutator and resistor set up to try and get photos I can post to show the magnetic flux moving from N pole toward S pole and then back again like a seesaw. Should be able to post that soon.

Greywolf47 posted this 15 December 2020

I promised a video of the changing magntic flux with the commutator slowed down to about 3 cycles per second.

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Greywolf47 posted this 15 December 2020

Still can't get it to post. Will keep trying.

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Greywolf47 posted this 15 December 2020

Still can't get it to load a picture of 1.6 mb. Sorry I'll keep trying.

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Vidura posted this 15 December 2020

Hey Greywolf, I recommend to use an app for resize the images, I use litfoto in my phone, works perfect and without a lot of advertising. So you can reduce the size of you images from various Mb to a few hundred kb . For videos similarly are applications capable of resizing for download. Vidura

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Greywolf47 posted this 15 December 2020

Thanks, Viura, I will try that. It is very frustrating to have information to share and knowledge to give but not be tech savy enough to get it done. LOL

Chris posted this 16 December 2020

GW,

Hope this helps:

 

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 16 December 2020

Thanks for the help. I've got to get a cable with USB terminal that will connect to my iphone to get my photos over to PAINT. I'll get there yet and promise some good stuff when I figure this out. Here I am working on world changing technology and can't figure out the tech to post it. LOL😆

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Greywolf47 posted this 16 December 2020

Thanks to all for the help . I'm getting a cable to down load my photos to my desktop computer and post from there.

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Greywolf47 posted this 16 December 2020

Greywolf47 posted this 16 December 2020

This is a page from the book I mentioned earlier that shows the direction of winding on 
N and S  coils and how they are arranged in series to get maximum output.

Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

I have realised that when I started posting on this thread, I began posting where I am in my research and not how I got here. Anyone wanting to reproduce my reproduction will need to have the background to understand WHY it is necessary to do certain things to be able to build a successful device.

Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

I began with other devices that were energy generating devices, several of them by Don Smith but I found them, at the time, to be too technical for my understanding at that time. When I came upon Clemente Figuera's infinite energy machine, it appeared to be a much more mechanical device with more of the requirements of my skill sets. I began by building the commutator because without being able to vary the current to the coils, it is impossible to build a static device. The first commutator I built had the 16 contacts inside just as Figuera had in his patent. The problem that came with that is that to get 60 Hz or 60 cycles per second, the brush had only one contact and had to turn 3600 rpm. This caused a great deal of vibration and noise and was very difficult to keep at a steady rpm. I built a second commutator with 32 internal contacts so that I could use 2 carbon brush contacts 180 degrees opposite. This balanced the rotor and stopped about 98 % of the vibration. It also allowed the rpm to be dropped to 1800 rpm and still get 60 cycles per second.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

Here is a photo of my commutator.

Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

The current from a 12 volt battery comes in at the carbon brush in contact with the copper sleeve. This takes the current down to the brush holder. There are two carbon brushes running 180 degrees opposed. Where the small blue connecter is in the photo you can see the brass holder and the black carbon brush in contact with the aluminium contact plates on the inside circumference of the 4 inch plastic pipe collar that is the body of the commutator.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

The ring of brass screws and nuts hold the aluminium contact plates in place as well as connecting the wiring that connects to the resister bank to vary the current to the coils.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

The brushes I am using are made for use in a vaccuum cleaner motor and have a plastic housing with a brass sleeve that holds the carbon brush. It is very important that the aluminium contact plates be spaced without touching and so that their edges are even so the carbon brushes move smoothly from plate to plate without resistance or bouncing.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

here is an overview of the complete commutatorcommutator

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

In the photo above you can see the different colors of paired wires that go from the outside circumferance of the pipe collar housing of the commutator down to the resistor coil set. Red wires carry full current, orange wires carry 80% current, yellow wires carry 60%, and white 40%. The current to the opposite pole of the primary coil is increasing so that the second white is carrying 40%, as the other decreases to 20%, etc. I started by using the heater coil out of a home furnace but found that it caused too much energy loss as heat that was not recoverable. I built a 7 coil inductor setup that would change the energy flow like the heater coil, but without the heat loss because as the coils are de energized, their energy is not lost.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

I put the old heater coil in the picture as reference so you can see how it was built but I no longer use it. The induction coil setup is much better.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

Behind the cream colored on/off switch is the fan housing of a cooling fan connected to the DC motor mounted beneath that turns the fan and commutator. In the foreground is a variable speed controller so I can slow down the cycles per second so that I can study what is happening with the magnetic flux.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

Just below the speed control is a white on/off switch that turns the motor on and off. The cream colored switch controls the current from the battery to the commutator. It is VERY IMPORTANT that the motor is turned on before the current to the commutator so as to not damage the carbon brushes and contacts. The damage will be arcing, and depending on the position of the carbon brushes, may even melt the aluminium contact such that it would be necessary to replace them due to damage.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

Rather than having a solid top on the commutator, I have elected to have a metal plate that is slotted with cutouts. This makes it self cooling as well as allowing me to see what is going on with the contacts and how much sparking is going on. Sparking is bad and indicates that something is probably not wired correctly.

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Greywolf47 posted this 17 December 2020

A lot of the parts and pieces of this machine are available from most hardware stores. However, there are some specialty parts and pieces that I had to have my son make for me. He has a metal fabrication shop with a CNC plasma table that can design and cut any part I have need of to built my devices.

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Greywolf47 posted this 18 December 2020

I know that this gives me great advantage and I am most fortunate. I am also retired and can spend more time than most and to devote resources to finish the task. I am always open to critique and suggestions if anyone sees a better way forward.

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Greywolf47 posted this 18 December 2020

The advantage of spending the time and resources to build the commutator and resistors is that it will give the ability to study the magnetic flux at a great deal LESS than light speed. Everything that happens to create what we seek has to be able to visualize what is otherwise invisible.

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Greywolf47 posted this 18 December 2020

Everything in a generator or dynamo stator happens in milliseconds and in sequence and order at the speed of light. When you go from single phase to three phase, it gets faster and more complicated. I have not yet come up with a way to replace the commutator for a 3 phase device because that commutator has 6 brushes (3 pairs) that are 120 degrees offset. This ultimately may have to be done digitally with 555 timers and solid state circuits. This is above my level of understanding at this time. Anyone on the forum with that expertise is welcome to comment. The single phase commutator with a single phase output CAN be replaced very effectively with a toroidal transformer with a center tap. The toroidal transformer I am using is a Hammond 1182 L30 with center tap. I use a heavy diode to convert the 30 volt output to DC at about 14 volts at 4 amps. The two outputs are 180 degrees inverted just like the commutator at about the voltage of a hot 12 volt battery.

Greywolf47 posted this 19 December 2020

Chris, about 4 days ago, you asked me about the theory of operation for my build out of Clemente Figuera's device. There will be laminated iron core primaries that are bifilar wound but the ends are not connected. Instead each wire is powered with a positive DC pulse at 60 Hz from one direction and pulsing at 60 Hz but phased 180 degrees inverted. The other wire in the coil is charged from the opposite end. This causes a rapid reversal in the magnetic flux and a reversal of polarity. The number of turns of these primaries and guage of wire is tentatively set at 136 turns bifilar wound (272) loops of 16 guage magnet wire. When I get all seven sets of 3 primaries wound, I may need to reduce the number of turns. The secondaries are paired and wound over the primaries with 980 turns of 22 guage magnet wire. Here again this may change to get the correct output voltage. The primaries are charged with 13 volts DC at 4 amps from the output of a Hammond 1182 L 30 toroidal transformer with a center tap. The 30 volts AC from the transformer is changed to DC by the use of a heavy duty diode on each output leg. The current of one output leg is fed into the series of primaries from one end and the other current is fed in from the opposite end of the primary set and 180 degrees inverted. The output from the first primary coil is fed into the adjacent coil in series from the opposite direction as the first coil. When all the primaries have been charged from this current, the inverted charge is entered into the primaries set from the opposite end and paired where the ground wire came out from the first current pulse. This current flow causes the secondaries to be charged in opposite directions so that the pattern of charge is N to S to N to S in one direction for 180 degrees of the sine wave and then all poles reverse when the current comes back in the opposite direction. This pattern should give the same output as a dynamo stator coils of a generator. This will be a single phase output. When this unit is perfected, I anticipate a 3 phase unit to follow.

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Greywolf47 posted this 20 December 2020

I have been studying some of Don Smith's videos and at the 2001 symposium he shows a detailed closeup of his high frequency coils that he states that he " took out 2 turns in the middle". That coil is definately a single coil, all turning in the SAME direction. In the center, the wire comes over the top and to the center tap. The other center tap wire goes in at the bottom of the coil to continue the second half of the coil.

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Chris posted this 20 December 2020

Hello Greywolf47,

Re your Theory of Operation, I was asking about ensuring Voltage and Current Flow on the Output, as I see nothing on Voltage and Current Flow on the output.

Of course anyone can wind a few coils!

I think ensuring one has a Magnified Output over and above the Input is of course the key and a very specific understanding is required to make this happen! Its not just a case of more turns!

Figuera said study the dynamo, and you are, this is good to see! There is a little more to it, however, a simple Transformer is not Above Unity, he left a very important part out!

Asymmetry of Magnetic Fields is the Key!

If you don't mind me saying, gaining this very important understanding before you spend more money on builds, can be very beneficial, save you a lot of time, money and heart ache!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

 

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Greywolf47 posted this 20 December 2020

The very simple diagram that I posted of a single phase generator clearly shows clockwise and counter clockwise windings in the stator coils with the CCW reversed in direction from the CW coils. This creates the asymmetry you speak of. What I am building is not a transformer, but a true generator that doesn't turn. The opposing bifilar wound primary coils overwound with opposing secondaries wound over them, gives the 1 minus 1 plus one giving voltage and amperage. In TESLA'S patent he shows three ways to do the coil winding. In figure 1 he show a center connection of a coil all wound in the same direction. In figure 2 he shows the bottom half after the ground in the reverse direction. As I understand, this is the way your paired output coils are wound. Then there is a figure 3 drawing where the M coil is full length in a CW direction and then back wound as bifilar wound halfway back with a center ground attached at the reversal. Don Smith said this type of winding gives greater amps.

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Chris posted this 20 December 2020

Hello Greywolf47,

I think, from what I see, you're on the right track!

Where do the Amps: 6.24 x 1018 Electrons per second = One Ampere, come from? What's the Source and Catalyst for this Flow?

I don't think I need to ask about Voltage as we all know the difference is Charge Potential between Terminal T1 and T2, this part is simple and obvious.

I only ask, to help, so please don't take this the wrong way.

Best Wishes,

   Chris

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Greywolf47 posted this 21 December 2020

My understanding, and this changes quite often, is that the two secondaries that are wound over the bifilar wound primary are wound with the primary CW and one of the secondaries being wound CW. The other of the paired output secondaries is wound CCW. As the primary current is reversed by current from the opposite end of the core, the collapsing field actually is in the same direction as the new current building until maximum current is reached. As I understand, voltage is created on the positive side of the sine wave and amps are generated on the negative part of the sine wave.

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Chris posted this 21 December 2020

Hello Greywolf47,

If I may recommend, The Mr Preva Experiment is the best experiment on this forum to show Current Amplification, if you can properly understand this Experiment, then you can properly understand HOW Current is Amplified and Pumped. The Lorentz Force is responsible for Accelerating Charge.

There is a great deal to be learnt, in this very simple, cheap, Experiment! This will save you a massive amount of time!

What is the Source of the Electrons:

 

A single Electron, the Copper Atom having 29 Electrons, has a Charge ( e ) of: -1.602176634×10−19 C

 

 

A Voltage, of One Volt, which is also equal to One Coulomb, has: 6.24 x 1018 Electrons  

One Ampere, is this very same Coulomb, moving past Terminal T1 in one Second, the Flow Rate of this Coulomb.

 

 

This is why, we see, Ohms Law, show us: 1 Amp x 1 Volt = 1 Watt. The Watt has Time t associated with it directly, 1 Second. Often the term Watt second is used, but mostly just "Watt". 

Each Electron, by definition, comes from the Atom, outer Orbitals, where Electrons on inner Orbitals can be made to move up in orbitals by adding Pressure, adding Energy.

We have many very important pages on this forum, all containing important information like the above! It is worth studding this very important information to understand what your Goal is!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Greywolf47 posted this 2 weeks ago

Just a quick update on my status as well as build status. I have recently moved from Tennessee to Kansas and have moved to a much smaller work space. I have gotten set up and am continuing on my Clemente Figuera replication. Thanks for your patience.

Chris posted this 2 weeks ago

Hey Greywolf47,

I hope the move went as well as a move can go! Moving is often difficult.

Best Wishes,

   Chris 

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