Unconventional Transformer Winding

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Vasile posted this 09 May 2019

Hello,

Just saw this today and thought to share with everybody. I used to study years ago the Kapanadze System and also related circuits and there was something about them that was different than any other conventional circuits. I could spot it right away. Like a feeling, something extra-ordinary. I realized in time that what caused that feelling was the fact that the circuit was not closed in the electrical sense but was opened. It felt like it didn't relly on inductive coupling but on capacitive coupling. I had the same feeling when I saw this circuit. Hope it helps and I would like to here your thoughts on it.

All the best,

Vasile

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Chris posted this 09 May 2019

My Friends,

In a tuned RLC Resonant Circuit, the Load of the Circuit R, in this case the Light and the connecting Wires, represents the Loss. In a perfect RLC Circuit there is no R, this means technically, Zero Losses. So, the input showing little increase, is perfectly normal.

I have seen this before, many times, on my bench and in videos.

This is fools Gold, no Energy is "Generated", Energy is only Circulated at a better than normal efficiency. Change the load and this puts out the Resonance and you loose the effect!

Be mindful of these things my Friends, they can consume time that could be better spent on learning the basics of How Energy is "Generated" wink.

Vasile, I am sorry, I do not meant to disrespect your post, I only mean to point out the simple traps that others can fall into! Thank You for your post!

I hope this helps!

   Chris

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Vasile posted this 13 May 2019

EVERYONE BE AWARE!
This user has an email: yusufindrawan932@gmail.com
I contacted him by this e-mail and he requested from me, 800$ to buy the coil asembly posted in the video. I searched his e-mail IP Adress: 209.85.220.41 and it is hosted by: mail-sor-f41.google.com, an e-mail server which apparently sends fraudulent messages, to scam people for money interests. I encourage everyone NOT TO SEND MONEY or any type of contact information to it.

 

P.S.: I am not saying the video is not legitimate, it could have been taken from someone who has good intentions, BUT it apparently got in the wrong hands.

 

 

Zanzal posted this 13 May 2019

Hey Vasile,

According to his video, this transformer consists of two parallel plates that are wound into a cylinder. He used zinc foil and paper if I remember correctly. This "capacitor" is then used as the windings on a transformer in an unusual circuit arrangement, so the large transformer core that looks like it has a capacitor on it, is exactly that. His circuit was included at the end of the video describes both the circuit and the construction details, so no need to send him any money.

The flaw in his design though (my opinion only) is that in addition to saving power, it modifies the power factor. If used extensively, the power companies would probably claim this is stealing power. For research purposes its certainly worth investigating. To be clear I am not suggesting anyone should be concerned about researching it, but if you wanted to use it to power a large resistive heater for heating your home in the winter, the power company may notice that large amounts of reactive power are being supplied to your home.

I personally find the whole reactive/active power thing extremely confusing, but I'd love to hear some other opinions especially  from the perspective of those who have a solid understanding of this...

Vasile posted this 13 May 2019

Well...some specifics need to be taken in account. For example, I have tryed it with copper foil at a smaller scale, but it doesn't work at all. I will probably give it a try with zinc foil.

All the best,

Vasile

Zanzal posted this 14 May 2019

Hey Vasile,

I am not sure if he chose zinc for a special reason, but I don't think this it is a strict requirement. Capacitance is likely an important factor so small scale resulting in small capacitance will likely result in failure. I wouldn't think it could be a proper test unless the capacitance exceeds several nF. Unfortunately, I don't have any nice transformer cores like the one in the video, mine are all very small and not suitable. So I have no way to test those assumptions. Other than resistance or surface area, I can't imagine why zinc would be important, but it doesn't hurt to try it. If you have a material with a very high surface area it might make a good substitute allowing you to scale down the test.

In the youtube video you linked someone posted a comment mentioning someone named Pavel Imris. I researched that Imris did patent something like this, and prior art is mentioned describing a transformer very similar sounding to the one shown in the video. So what is being shown likely predates his patent. Here is the link for Imris' patent:

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2010003394A2/en

Anyway I think this is very cool and there is probably something important to learn from this. Determining whether the power savings shown (outside of the reactive power/active power issue) is real could lead to important understanding. I think Chris' warning that this is likely fool's gold and not genuine Au will likely prove to be the case, but also consider that Chris knows that from experience and experience is something one can only get from trying it themselves.

 

 

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Vasile posted this 15 May 2019

Hey Zanzal,

I find no mistake in what you wrote above. We think much the same way. I felt that capacitance had an important role and you are right, it was low, very low actually. I have a LC Meter and it registered about 2nF. It wasn't rational of me to think it would work at that low capacitance. Zinc, copper, it probably has no importance as long as the capacitance is high enough. Regarding Pavel Imris, he appears to have done similar research. I read the capacitive winding patent but unfortunately like most patents out there, the bigest problem is specifics. I think 99% of the patents I have seen in my entire life have no specifics! This is madness in my opinion because you cannot replicate something with acuracy if you do not have the exact configuration of the original. I know the patent holders want to present the general idea, but there should be a place in the patent, where a detailed scheme, with specifics of the device, must be present (a small scale device, it doesn't have to be big, just the point to be made, for everybody interested to replicate). Greed or paranoya of the patent holder also has a big place in this. All of these togheter, impede the majority of energy efficient seekers, like you and me and many others, to wonder years after years without finding much usefull information. It is like reading a book, for enjoyment and nothing more.

I understand Chriss remark about it being fools Gold, this device probably needs tuning for a specific load, but if you can use 1var to mantain 1W, I think that is still something.

All the best,

Vasile

 

P.S.: I will try to scale up the capacitance.

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