Ourbobby's Bucking Coil Experiments

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Ourbobby posted this 4 weeks ago

Hello,

I am putting this message into this Bucking coils thread, not being sure where else it can go. And, especially as I am looking to understand the Floyd Sweet contribution.

I have a standard pulse circuit into the basic bucking coil circuit. I am using a neon globe cross the primary coil which captures positive feedback. The coils are arranged as drawn, and with turns and gauge. I am showing diodes for taking off the load.

I get Outcome:

1) connect across positive going diode D1 and I get reasonable glow in globe;
2) connect across positive going diode D2 and I get very good glow from globe;
3) connect across Negative going diode D3 and I get outstanding white glow form glow:

When I connect globe across D3, the instant power is connected the globe has great purple/violet flash. After couple of minutes for bucking coils to settle, I get violet bursts in the neon and violent bursts of white light in the globes. However, if I substitute a higher wattage globe the whole effect becomes muted. Prolonged exposure to the D3 source will cause damage to the circuit, neon and or globes!!

What I am not understanding is the direction of the A Vector as it travels through the coils. Although, it does seem to me that the purple glow is the radiant energy that I might be looking for as the alternate energy source. Further, The pulse from the feed back through the neon, with a small load connected to D3 is showing 1kv output on the scope.

Comments would be appreciated.

Acknowledgement of Atti's original circuit.

Regards

ourbobby

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Chris posted this 4 weeks ago

Hey Ourbobby,

Nice work! Yes, you are right, there is a Polarity to the Coils, the Input Current is an Indicator as to your best configuration. Of course, the maximum Output for the least Input, you should see your Input go down in Current when connected correctly. 

Wistiti shows just how this is done here:

 

You need to remember, there are limitations, the Flux Window [ B ] can only hold so much Flux and it can only change in a certain time. 

Like I said, you are on the right track! Make steps forward and you will soon look back and not believe where you are!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris

Atti posted this 4 weeks ago

Ourbobby

 

I’m not an expert on the subject, I’m just saying my opinion.
Don't stick to that drawing. If you observe Chris' drawing, there D1 is the other way around. Cd also used both variations. I don't know about others.
In my opinion, rather look at the outcome of the impact.
-Change iron cores if you can.
-Move near saturation (supply voltage, frequency, low primary speed, fill factor max 20%) I had the best performance there.
-Observe what the S2 coil changes and at what parameters! !

The Joule thief is a very strange device. Tends to cheat!
It changes its frequency under load. Especially if you change the polarity with the diode.

Decide at your own discretion.
(listen to everyone's opinions because they say a lot of good things, but don't listen to anyone)

Atti.

Chris posted this 4 weeks ago

Ati is right, that's very good advice! Thank You Ati!

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris

Ourbobby posted this 4 weeks ago

Hi guys,

             Thanks for the replies. I have witnessed many of the comments made. Such as the Flux limitations and the change in frequencies with load. Witnessing these events,  tend to encourage one to dig deeper.

However, my question today is, after exhaustive reading on Floyd Sweet, it is the process as illustrated in the diagrams of the basic circuits that I am unable to reconcile. Yet, I see that Chris has indicated in Part 1 of coil conditioning, that a figure 8 design might be appropriate. I have built a Caduseus coil to test and confirm outputs. The other similarity is the Mobius winding, which is more of a closed loop: such as an 8 shape, and might be the better method. I have not tested the Mobius coil yet, having the need to determine the best way to drive it. As it is a theoretical closed loop, for the VTA for me, flux coupling would seem to be the better option. But, I am not sure how one would set up the Mobius for bucking?

Further down the rabbit hole! I do not think that Floyd Sweet was trying to mislead anyone with the comment regarding magnet conditioning. I feel it is more likely that something he wrote or said was misinterpreted, to which misinterpretation he never corrected. If we interpret "condition" as a requirement for a better outcome a simple change of magnet size, for example, be a sufficient explanation for conditioning. No mystery here for me.

Edit: It occurs to me that I might be able to interlink two bifilar wound coils to get the Figure eight.

Once again, thanks for the feedback.

ourbobby

Chris posted this 4 weeks ago

Hey Ourbobby,

Study is always good. I would like to say, it is however very easy to over complicate and thus confuse ones self, if one strays from the parameters of the current experiment.

To be blunt, regarding figure 8 Coils and so on, you are not on the best path forward if you follow that stuff. It is different and not related!

You will learn much more, and gain much more if you stick to your original experiments.

Best wishes, stay safe and well,

   Chris

Ourbobby posted this 4 weeks ago

Hi Chris,

             Thanks for the advice. Too much cross information to look at. Just trying to get a handle on the Sparky sequence to better understand development.

regards

Edit: I now understand why I was unable to replicate the current sawtooth waveforms as per your demonstration videos! I was winding the directions that you had. But, I need different coil winding directions to you. I get the Mr Preva too!! And the Don!! Will attempt a full build and try to make a video.

ourbobby

Ourbobby posted this 3 weeks ago

Hi guys,
have spent the last few days seeking what I think the output should be. L/Blue is output from Bucking coil S1 with small globe across coil. D/Blue is output from Bucking coil S2 to primary of center coil of Don Smith Tesla type output coils. Purple is output from Don smith secondary coils. I wound these Cw and CCW. I need more wire to wind both coils in same direction to test the outcome.

I think I might be on the right track with this output. I am waiting for some GDT's as the neon globes are not up to it! Literally burn up in a puff of purple smoke!!! Too much current/power being drawn for them. I am using the circuit above.

Regards

ourbobby

Chris posted this 3 weeks ago

Hey Ourbobby,

I think you have switching problems again. Its not what it should be, that is, unless you are looking for something else?

Best wishes stay safe and well,

   Chris

Ourbobby posted this 3 weeks ago

Hi Chris,

              Thanks for the reply, I am looking to utilise the Bucking coil set up as a driver for say a Don Smith outcome. I thought that what I should be looking for in that scenario is a modulated wave pattern, whereby, demodulating to a sign wave outcome seeks to utilise the pattern formation I thought I had correctly tuned to. This pattern is similar to that of a quarter wave superimposition?

Edit: I have used a 16:1 ratio that uses a multi strand primary coil, not a quarter wave.

Regards

ourbobby 

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